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Post by Spud on Jun 14, 2008 17:54:21 GMT 10
I was telling my mum about this song, and she said that Damien should change the name to Sarah Jane and that Damien should come knocking on our door... I have no objections I was actually just thinking the other day that it should be called Sarah Jane.
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Post by KrisLovesDamien on Jun 14, 2008 21:33:28 GMT 10
I was telling my mum about this song, and she said that Damien should change the name to Sarah Jane and that Damien should come knocking on our door... I have no objections OMG THATS HILARIOUS!!! A Golden star for your mum SJ Everytime i listen to this song i picture Damien in the Hawt Farmer outfit LOL Anyways i love song
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Post by SJ on Jun 15, 2008 5:27:40 GMT 10
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Post by Roxy on Jul 4, 2008 9:41:01 GMT 10
I listened to this for only the 2nd time yesterday!! I have to admit I wasn't overly impressed with it the first time, and the second time wasn't much different, sorry D. I think it sounds so Country! which isn't something I like much, except the fun stuff (Yeeehaaa kinda thing) I thought it sounded like something I've heard before (the tune) but can't place my finger on what? I think I missed the power in Damien's voice, there didn't seem to be any 'ommmph' in it for me, although that may have been the intention I don't know. I found I could sing along to the song after only the second listen too which sometimes is a good thing, but what I like about a song I'm into is that it takes me awhile to remember the words, so I keep playing it until I remember the them.
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Post by hyperrune on Jul 4, 2008 12:26:03 GMT 10
Roxy, it reminds me so much of Take Me Home Country Road by John Denver, especially the higher note on "you gotta do what you gotta do" (nothing wrong with that, even Neil Finn admits to borrowing from other songs ) This is a more contemplative song, so less of a power ballad, lower notes, a more subdued tone, but it really captures the nostalgia, it sounds like it could've genuinely been written back in the 60's (as Princey said), it's somewhere between 22 Steps, Beautiful and Cold Cold Heart in terms of sound and story. I think he's really refining his writing techniques down from what he learnt on WWL. What makes it really beautiful, I think, are the layers in it; the story, the voice, the guitars, a hint of strings I think (I've only heard it twice too! ) it is so well-crafted, you can hear the care in selecting an arrangement that's gone into it. Damien has always been a genre-hopper, he demonstrated that on Idol, he really knows what characterizes a genre so he can really get into it when he decides to visit it, and that's something not many singers can do over such a wide range of genres
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Post by Roxy on Jul 4, 2008 17:37:47 GMT 10
I like Powerful Damien!! Think of him as a car! A Corvette Stingray!.....Powerful V8! and yet this song is more like a Kombi Van! Even ballads that I like, I prefer some form of power behind them. Thats just me! ;D It's pleasant but not my cuppa tea is all. ;D
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Post by Trilly on Jul 4, 2008 18:48:30 GMT 10
I like Powerful Damien!! Think of him as a car! A Corvette Stingray!.....Powerful V8! and yet this song is more like a Kombi Van! Even ballads that I like, I prefer some form of power behind them. Thats just me! ;D It's pleasant but not my cuppa tea is all. ;D Roxy, I love that analogy! Great way to express how you feel about this song. Everyone has different opinions, and that's totally cool, in my book. As I've said, this song had to grow on me..and it did, quite quickly. I have said too, it's awfully familiar and it does have a country feel to it. However, as much as I now enjoy it, it's not the style of music I would like to dominate his next originals album. I'd like some of the tracks to have a bit of an edge and if some had a power kick, it would suit me perfectly too!..However, hopefully D will produce the sound he truly wants. Can't wait..well I can, but you know what I mean. ;D
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Post by kel on Jul 4, 2008 19:40:35 GMT 10
In my opinion, this song should have a different title ... The original story re BJ stuff can be found >>> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_Jane_Hudson... a tragic story ... ... is this what D wanted? There are elements of the story in the song but ... I don't know ... will leave it to you guys ...
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Post by kel on Jul 4, 2008 19:41:07 GMT 10
oh, do I like it ... nah ...
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Post by dmac on Jul 5, 2008 3:47:04 GMT 10
Must confess, I'm not country either....maybe cause I grew up there ;D I'm kinda into edgy and power ;D
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Post by Spud on Jul 5, 2008 11:47:24 GMT 10
The only thing I don't like about the song is the title, it's really weird. I also think Annie's Song is a bit of a weird name for that song.
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Post by hyperrune on Jul 5, 2008 13:33:08 GMT 10
Well, it's Annie's Song because she was John Denver's wife But they broke up soon after that song, so perhaps Baby Jane is better than Eileen's Song, just to be on the safe side I don't mind it, the same way I don't mind listening to Annie's Song, but a whole album of John Denver can be very bland. My parents have a double-disc of Denver's greatest hits; we seldom get through just one disc! In terms of story, it reminds me of U2's Wild Honey, a song I've always loved from their All That You Can't Leave Behind album (their best album in my opinion!), it has similar themes of young sweethearts growing apart, but the guy still offering to wait for her and give her a home if she'll let him in. That also had a nice, slightly country, acoustic lilt to it; it's kind of the sound of innocence that has been slightly tainted, but it's still uplifting; it's a hopeful yearning for a love they had that may still have stood the test of time And I'm getting way too deep and meaningful; obviously been listening to too much Neil Finn again When you come down to it, though, Eileen must be Baby Jane - I can imagine Damien writing this about the years since Eileen left Ireland, until they met again and decided to settle down together, relocating to Australia; it's the kind of "tell me where you're going we could be just like before/ I'll make some money and we'll build ourselves a home" line. It could also be from personal experience, seeing people leave his home town for bigger things, and even leaving himself to pursue music, wanting "bright lights". I could be completely wrong, but it seems the logical explanation. Damien, if I'm completely wrong, feel free to refute it, you know your own life better than me!
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Post by Spud on Jul 5, 2008 13:45:14 GMT 10
That makes sense to me Hyp. But yeah, it's only speculation, since Damien knows his own life better than us and has his own reasons for writing the song. I remember him saying he was writing more story songs now, so maybe it's not about anyone in particular, but his own life and Eileen's life would obviously influence what he writes.
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Post by hyperrune on Jul 5, 2008 14:41:32 GMT 10
Yeah, that's true. It might have nothing to do with his life at all I remember Neil Finn saying in an interview that some of his best songs are ones where he only relates to 2 lines of it himself, but he knows other people will connect with what he's written. Song writing is all about storytelling, but the stories don't have to be personal
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Post by dmac on Jul 6, 2008 3:35:34 GMT 10
In my opinion, this song should have a different title ... The original story re BJ stuff can be found >>> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_Jane_Hudson... a tragic story ... ... is this what D wanted? There are elements of the story in the song but ... I don't know ... will leave it to you guys ... Thanks for that link Oz, must confess...as soon as I saw the Song Title...thought of the Movie and that picture of Bette with the terrible makeup. Have only listened to the song about 10 times, still don't like country
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