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Post by shimmery on Dec 5, 2006 16:23:25 GMT 10
OK, I've checked it out and it's word for word the same as that Dean one we all saw a few weeks back - wasn't that found not to exist after a few days ? Is it back again?
So - just how official is this? I will certainly need proof that it's officially endorsed.
If it's the real thing I'll join, but I want to wait and see.
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Post by christyl on Dec 5, 2006 17:43:07 GMT 10
OK, I've checked it out and it's word for word the same as that Dean one we all saw a few weeks back - wasn't that found not to exist after a few days ? Is it back again? So - just how official is this? I will certainly need proof that it's officially endorsed. If it's the real thing I'll join, but I want to wait and see. Hmmmm...smells just like...just like...I know!...Spam!.. (I mean, Scam:) I for one would love to know just what one gets for one's money, and where the $30 fee goes. Now, if it went to promote Damien's work and it could be SHOWN to do that, that's one thing... However, since I personally feel a fan club exists primarily to: 1. To provide a forum for debate (and gushing, lots of gushing) on the artist 2. To promote the work of said artist 3. To inform members on the movements of said artist... Why, I have to say that any fan club would have to be darn good to beat the crew on here!! Think I will stick with this board and save my $30.
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Post by shimmery on Dec 5, 2006 17:49:32 GMT 10
Yes, the main thing I can see of interest is the early access to concert tickets.
I've been looking at the Official Damien Site forum's comments regarding this club and apparently the Dean one is back again, but posters there are waiting to see if this is officially endorsed by Sony BMG and I think that looks like what I'll wait to see as well before considering paying any money.
Doesn't this pose a problem if this is official, and there is a fan forum there, on Damien's official site, and here? I don't think any of us could possibly keep up with 3 forums.
Looking forward to seeing what everyone thinks once we know whether this is truly official or not.
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Post by belinda on Dec 5, 2006 21:52:14 GMT 10
I'll be sitting back and waiting too before I even consider joining up. I haven't had a peep at it yet. I don't know how I would keep up with three forums, I'm not even keeping up with two. I think I've only made a handful of posts in the other forum.
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Post by Mi chiamano Kami on Dec 5, 2006 22:35:38 GMT 10
Well... whether it's official or unofficial, the one thing I know for sure is that this whole thing is incredibly unprofessional. The site may look pretty but heck - any kid who knows some basic HTML and CSS and can edit images could come up with something of that quality. No endorsement from the official site yet, inconsistency with stories (weren't these supposed to be up for Jess and Damien after the GF last we heard?) and, to be honest, nothing worth paying real money for are going to make me hold onto my $30. Not that Damien isn't worth the money, but all that is more teeny fandom stuff than artist-y stuff - give me a shiny new album and a seat at the very back of the concert hall over a personal phone call any day. P.S. Damien, if you ever have a reason to call me of your own accord, please disregard above comments. As much as I may protest I'm sure I would still squeal like a little girl.
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Post by murfinator on Dec 5, 2006 22:36:42 GMT 10
yeah damo, feel free to call us any time you like ;D
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Post by christyl on Dec 5, 2006 23:28:32 GMT 10
Well... whether it's official or unofficial, the one thing I know for sure is that this whole thing is incredibly unprofessional. The site may look pretty but heck - any kid who knows some basic HTML and CSS and can edit images could come up with something of that quality. No endorsement from the official site yet, inconsistency with stories (weren't these supposed to be up for Jess and Damien after the GF last we heard?) and, to be honest, nothing worth paying real money for are going to make me hold onto my $30. Not that Damien isn't worth the money, but all that is more teeny fandom stuff than artist-y stuff - give me a shiny new album and a seat at the very back of the concert hall over a personal phone call any day. P.S. Damien, if you ever have a reason to call me of your own accord, please disregard above comments. As much as I may protest I'm sure I would still squeal like a little girl. oh, wouldn't we all!!!! (well, actually, I would probably be struck dumb..and then kick myself later for all the things I should have asked:) Kami, I agree that there are things about this that smells. aaa says they are waiting for endorsement from Sony...well, why are they starting without it?..isn't that just asking for these sort of questions? Anyway, I have emailed SonyBMG and asked them if the site is legit (especially since it uses graphics and background seemingly lifted off their own forum)..will let you know if I get a response, ok?
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Post by shimmery on Dec 5, 2006 23:30:22 GMT 10
emailing Sony is a great idea - I want to know from them that this is official
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Post by Mysterri on Dec 6, 2006 0:08:48 GMT 10
Well... whether it's official or unofficial, the one thing I know for sure is that this whole thing is incredibly unprofessional. The site may look pretty but heck - any kid who knows some basic HTML and CSS and can edit images could come up with something of that quality. No endorsement from the official site yet, inconsistency with stories (weren't these supposed to be up for Jess and Damien after the GF last we heard?) and, to be honest, nothing worth paying real money for are going to make me hold onto my $30. Not that Damien isn't worth the money, but all that is more teeny fandom stuff than artist-y stuff - give me a shiny new album and a seat at the very back of the concert hall over a personal phone call any day. P.S. Damien, if you ever have a reason to call me of your own accord, please disregard above comments. As much as I may protest I'm sure I would still squeal like a little girl. oh, wouldn't we all!!!! (well, actually, I would probably be struck dumb..and then kick myself later for all the things I should have asked:) Kami, I agree that there are things about this that smells. aaa says they are waiting for endorsement from Sony...well, why are they starting without it?..isn't that just asking for these sort of questions? Anyway, I have emailed SonyBMG and asked them if the site is legit (especially since it uses graphics and background seemingly lifted off their own forum)..will let you know if I get a response, ok? I've posted a reply to aaa's reply on the official forum where he/she said if we have any questions, just ask. Below is my message in full. 5/12/06. 7:29 p.m. Thank you for your reply aaa and I do have a few questions for you.
1. Why is there a need to charge a membership fee for this fan site you're promoting when many other on-line fan sites are free and offer similar benefits you purport to offer?
2. How is our membership money utilised and dispersed?
3. Do you have written permission to use the images of Damien on your site? Your interface is very similar to the official forum and I'm assuming that you did read the terms and conditions of the official site before registering as a member.
I'm sure there are many Damien fans who will be happy to pay the $30.00 membership fee to join your fan site and that is entirely their prerogative. I won't be one of them, I would much prefer to spend my money on Damien's music and DVD's thus ensuring that he reaps the benefits of the dollars I spend.
Thanks again for taking the time to reply and I look forward to hearing from you with answers to the questions I've put forward. At time of writing I haven't received a reply.
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Post by irishrokit on Dec 6, 2006 0:35:33 GMT 10
Well it says there now you can win a phone call from Damien not Dean, that's a little more comforting Only a little though. EXCLUSIVE: Join Damien Leith UpClose for your chance to WIN a phone call from Damien! Plus all Damien Leith fans who join UpClose now will receive an extra month free - thats 13 months! wow get excited This is under FAQ: Q: Is this fan club official and does Damien actually visit the website? A: Yes this is 100% official - Damien will be logging in to the site regularly to chat to members of Damien Leith UpClose and is very excited with giving his fans greater opportunities for his fans to meet and greet him. Q: How do I contact the Fan Club Manager if I have any questions or problems? A: The Fan Club Manager will always be lurking around the fan club website forums, etc but you can also contact them at fanclub@damienleithfan.com. (yet another forum, why does he need 2?) Only one membership is allowed per person. If multiple memberships are found for one person, these memberships will be cancelled without a refund. Like you'd want 2 No refunds will be given upon joining. I don't see what there giving you for your $30 that you can't get for free. And Damien already has an official site why does he need this aswell? Also you can join up and hand over your cash easily but there is no log in Nothing to do with sony on any pages either. You'd think if it was official they'd have logo's all over it.
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Post by mozaic on Dec 6, 2006 6:59:09 GMT 10
Strange, but Damien feels *exactly* the same way Dean does, word for word My question on the official site was What is Damien's view on the fan club and it charging $30 and will that mean that he won't be posting on his official site or this one? No answers yet either.
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Post by christyl on Dec 6, 2006 17:32:37 GMT 10
Also you can join up and hand over your cash easily but there is no log in Nothing to do with sony on any pages either. You'd think if it was official they'd have logo's all over it. Great point, Irishrokit! If its so exclusive, where is the login like they have for other protected sites? The smell of Spam is getting stronger...
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Post by purplegraciegirl on Dec 7, 2006 10:09:03 GMT 10
I'd wait to hear from Eils or Damo here that it is real.
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Post by purplegraciegirl on Dec 7, 2006 19:11:44 GMT 10
I have received a message from Dean Geyer that this is not his fansite: www.deangeyerfan.com/ It follows that the other is likely not Damien's official fansite. That makes both sites fraudulent - which is a criminal offence.
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Post by RT on Dec 7, 2006 19:21:15 GMT 10
DEAN? why the hell would we want a phone call from damien when we can have one from dean!!! im gona join up just so i can be in the running to win! oh my gawd he is soooo hawt!!
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